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This is a sort of repost from my journal, and since my journal is probably too boring to read, I don't get comments on it. Oh well. How sad.
Anyways, here's what I had come up with at 2,22 a.m. and I would really like to know....

Recently, I came upon a thought that I needed a new picture to try and to emulate (but not plagiarize ), and I wanted something Wuthering Heights related. Which brings me to yet another related topic. Wuthering Heights.
This books is just so shattering, so brilliant, so perfect, that even after having read it over 7 times, it still gets to me how perfect it is. It also shows how perfect it is by being bolded, underlined, and put into a different font, color, and size. Not many titles deserve that. Anyways, I would love to hear your thoughts on this book. Please. Discuss how you hate Heathcliff (although I will argue with that view), or how (in my opinion) Hindley ruined everyone's life. Ask me about that one, and you will get an honest answer. Not something like, 'He was stoopid, and ugly and a drunk. Of course he rooind everee one's life.' or something equally time wasting. But this brings me to my actual question.

Which was your favorite version and WHY? I love discussing this with people. Most often with my friends' parents, as none of my friends seem to love worship this book as much as I do. What a shame. Or not; I can just drive them nuts with my 178th rendition of an excellent quote from the end of chapter 15.

I terribly, terribly want to know. I think that I may fair burst. That's a lie. However, I do really want to know, because I was looking through pictures to draw (this ties in with both my earlier points) and came upon one that had nothing to do with my search, but inevitably was life altering. Or hour altering, which ever one suits your imaginative fancy better. This was a page from some literary magazine, and had a spread on the merits of each of the Wuthering Heights movies that were made. I prefered the 1992 one, however, Juliette Binoche as Catherine was a slightly bad choice. I did think that Ralph Fiennes (or whatever), who they chose for Heathcliff in it, did a fantastic job.


James M. Barrie
If you have it love, you don't need to have anything else, and if you don't have it, it doesn't matter much what else you have.


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Sep. 30th, 2008 02:59 am (UTC)
Go ahead and explain why you love it. It didn't do much for me, which may well be my failing.

I was forced to read it in high school by a teacher I hated. At that time, I thought Heathcliff was cool. I read it again a couple of years ago, and my outlook was different. I thought, my God--here are all these people--the Lindens and Earnshaws and all, and Heathcliff just comes in out of the blue and ends up taking ALL of their land! What a grabby asshole!

Hindley was a wuss, but I felt very sorry for Linden.
Sep. 30th, 2008 03:21 am (UTC)
I thought the 1992 version of Wuthering Heights was absolutely horrible, everybody seemed so out of place. The 1998 version with Orla Brady and Robert Cavanah was my favourite, but some of the people that play the other characters look a bit weird.
Sep. 30th, 2008 03:36 am (UTC)
If you liked Wuthering Heights, you might like Jane Eyre as well (written by her sister.) I just read it for my Victorian Literature class and I loved it.
Sep. 30th, 2008 01:24 pm (UTC)
Yes, but despite being written by sisters they're very different books. Jane Eyre is much more reserved, whereas you see the total, consuming passion between Heathcliff and Catherine in Wuthering Heights. Jane Eyre is much quieter, even if there are a few scandals in it.
Oct. 1st, 2008 01:23 am (UTC)
I liked Jane Eyre, but not as much as Wuthering Heights.
You are so lucky you have that class. I would die for it.
Sep. 30th, 2008 05:55 am (UTC)
"Ah, your favourites are among these!" I continued, turning to an obscure cushion full of something like cats.
^ My favourite event.
I liked this book a bit. Not so much as you. I didn't HATE Heathcliff and can probably see where you are coming from as regards Hindley. Yet I feel inclined to disagree. But first.. state your position!

I haven't seen any films :)
Oct. 1st, 2008 01:37 am (UTC)
My position on Hindley?
Well, from the beggining he was sour against Heathcliff, when he really had almost no provacation. The first incidence was when his violin was broken when Heathcliff was first introduced. But, putting Hindley's initial dislike for Heathcliff, Heathcliff himself was not 'child of goodness' and I think that he took advantage of his 'father's' tendency to take his side. However, when Hindley made Heathcliff do horrid things, and made him become some sort of servant and degrade his standing (even though he wasn't truly of their social ranks to begin with), everything went downhill. He impacted what Cathy eventually thought of Heathcliff, and left him out of so many things, like the dance where Heathcliff actually started to go, and Nelly Dean tried to make him look nice (the one time I actually liked her in the book). Altogether I thought he was a cruel man.
Sep. 30th, 2008 08:28 am (UTC)
A bit off topic, but did anyone else find it really amusing when Gordon Brown (the UK prime minister) said it was "absolutely correct" to compare him to Heathcliff, only "maybe an older Heathcliff, a wiser Heathcliff"?

Ann Dinsdale, a Bronte expert, told the BBC: "The thing about Heathcliff is he turned to domestic abuse, possibly committed murder and certainly dug up the remains of his dead lover. Is this the role model we want for our own prime minister?" Tee hee.
Sep. 30th, 2008 01:41 pm (UTC)
Okay, that's hilarious.
Sep. 30th, 2008 09:23 am (UTC)
The one lasting impression I got from this book was simply that is really very good to communicate. Everyone seemed quite happy to march on 'til death without even sitting down and calmly having a chat to sort out their misunderstandings.

So why don't you hate Heathcliff?

I'm inclinced to agree with you about the damage done by Hindley.

I find it particularly hard to read this book, because I absolutely can't stand Nellie Dean. The way she thinks, the way she speaks, are a huge barrier to overcome and, having spoken to a few people about the book since reading it, not many people seem to. It's fascinating how many people can read a book and simply adopt the views of the narrator without realising it.

What are your views on Cathy? I'm having a heated debate currently with someone who absolutely despises her, but I think he's missed the point. I think to hate her, to consider her arrogant and selfish, is only getting part of the story.

I've never seen an adaptation of it so can't help there...
Oct. 1st, 2008 01:21 am (UTC)
I agree with you on the Nelly Dean part. She makes it a bit hard to see past her views, and if it were perhaps an omniscient POV, then maybe....but who knows. I like it in her narrative version.
I don't hate Heathcliff, 1) because he was slightly an idiot and was really compelled to just be stubborn and headstrong, 2) because he was totally and realistically flawed. Not many authors are able to do this, and Emily Bronte was able to put in real flaws in many (or dare I say, all) of her characters. 3)There was some irresistible dangerous charm that went with him, 4)he had an obstinate love for Cathy, which he could have readily given up, seeing as she was a jerk. And even though he by the middle of the book he was this man with a warped mind he wasn't kind, I thought that he had all he right. If your love lives 12 miles away and just blighted their chances together because Hindley decided to be an ass and put him at a lower rank (even though technicallyyyyyy he kinda was) and Cathy was a bit thickheaded in her decision and chose Linton.
But as for Cathy, I don't despise her at all. I disliked her at many times, but over all, I thought that she and Heathcliff were just misunderstood, overly passionate and not communicating correctly.
Sep. 30th, 2008 11:40 am (UTC)
I do love "Wuthering Heights" (and have never made it through the snooze-fest that is "Jane Eyre"). I haven't found a version I like because they all portray Heathcliff and Cathy's love affair as this amazing thing, when really it's scary co-dependency between two very violent people. They also ignore that Cathy's ghost seems to come back for vengeance, not Eternal Wuv. I have a hard time hating Heathcliff for the spousal abuse, because Cathy beat him, too. It seemed to be some sort of bizarre thing they did together. I mean, even when 9 months pregnant she was still ripping his hair out. This is not to say that I think Heathcliff some dashing hero to brood after. Quite the contrary.

Anywho, great book, the one or two adaptations I saw seemed to miss the point.
Sep. 30th, 2008 11:56 am (UTC)
Ack. Not spousal abuse. I guess....Cathy abuse? The spousal abuse, not so much given a pass. I am so not awake yet.
Sep. 30th, 2008 01:26 pm (UTC)
You put it better than I could.
Sep. 30th, 2008 12:37 pm (UTC)
I have actually never been much of a fan of it myself. I've ready a number of times, too. Once in high school and then twice two semesters in a row in college. Though, I have to admit, it grows on you the more that you read it. I remember the first time that I read it, I had no idea what was going and I think that was what gave me such a distaste for it. Also, you tend to learn less about the author and time period in High School. In college I had to read it for a British Literature class and a... european lit class I believe? I don't really remember that much, but I liked it more when I learned about the author and the time period and could understand the thought process a little more (and I knew who was who. That's always a helpful thing). I take the same approach to Wuthering Heights as I do Don Quixote (a book I hate with all the fire of hell). I may not like the book that much, but I can appriciate it for the impact it had in the world of literature.

As for the movies, I've only ever seen one and I don't really remember which one that it was because it was in High School and I didn't really pay attention. However, in my Brit Lit class I did hear the Wuthering Heights song.
Sep. 30th, 2008 01:08 pm (UTC)
I love the book and I love Heathcliff as a well written character. I don't find him the king of romantic heroes, though; he was terrible to his wife. I could even understand his reasons, but that wasn't an excuse.

The book is a masterpiece, in my opinion, precisely because the characters are not perfect.
Sep. 30th, 2008 01:58 pm (UTC)
It's one of my all time favourites. All the other Brontes and Jane Austin can go hang compared to Emily Bronte's single published masterpiece.
Heathcliff is compellingly evil and therefore sexy, Cathy is the passionate person in all of us and Lockwood is the face we try and present to the world.
I've only seen one good adaption, argue with me if you like, but it was an ITV version with Peter Davidson as Lockwood and Sarah Smart as Cathy Jnr. I can't remember the lead roles, but I know they were spot on in my mind.
Few adaptions fully tell the tale of the second generation but this one did.

Oct. 1st, 2008 01:12 am (UTC)
Hmm. I've read it once, and I thought it was full of horrible characters being horrible to each other, and quite frankly I didn't give a damn about them or anything that happened to them. I might give it another chance some day.
Oct. 1st, 2008 01:37 am (UTC)
Thank you guys all for commenting!!
Oct. 1st, 2008 04:50 am (UTC)
I liked Wuthering Heights, but I absolutely hated Heathcliff. He was a boring, vindictive idiot, who just couldn't leave anyone alone to be happy. I don't understand why it is when people say that Cathy and Heathcliff are the ultimate romantic couple.
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