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Gaming books fluff

Does any one here read tabletop roleplaying/card game/wargaming books?

We have a lot of novel readers, but there must be some gamers in the community and I was pondering what their favourite game fluff would be. Are there any games you play or just by the books for just for the fluff alone?

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haydn
Sep. 10th, 2008 02:29 pm (UTC)
I'm really into White Wolf books (and the tabletop games), like Werewolf: the Apocalypse, Vampire: the Masquerade and Mage: the Ascension. In case the titles didn't tip anyone off, I only play/enjoy/read the third-edition versions, however. Fourth ed is just nonsense all around in my opinion. My favorite is Werewolf.
jetsetrabite
Sep. 10th, 2008 02:36 pm (UTC)
Isn't Masquerade 1st edition and the new one the 2nd edition?

I don't think WoD is up to 4th yet.
haydn
Sep. 10th, 2008 02:40 pm (UTC)
I thought that Masquerade was up to 4th now, but I could be wrong. In any case, I only play/read the edition for any of their games that precedes the current one.
summer_moth
Sep. 10th, 2008 03:01 pm (UTC)
Masquerade got to 3rd ed. then was 'retired' by White Wolf along with all the other WoD games, to be replaced by new versions including Vampire: The Requiem etc...& yeah, they've pretty much ruined it!
haydn
Sep. 10th, 2008 04:00 pm (UTC)
That's the name, Requiem. It's awful, I'd been looking forward to a Gehenna game for so long and then they pull all this out of nowhere.
count_fenring
Sep. 10th, 2008 04:41 pm (UTC)
Word up.

Honestly, it's like the took every single system they made, and taken out the part of it that's awesome.

Example:

Vampire
Ok, so it's cool that these guys can be ancient, and know ancient secrets. So, let's make it so that they all fall into torpor AND FORGET THE PAST as they get more powerful. Then, once they've lost the knowledge, we'll also have them lose powers that they've paid for with XP.

Changeling
Ok. So it's cool that people get to be fairies, and have a natural connection and home in the dual worlds. So let's make them people kidnapped by the fairies, instead.

Werewolf
Ok. Two fold here. A)They have a strong religious/spiritual connection to the planet and spirits. B)They're combat monsters who fight THE WORST THING IMAGINABLE to save the world. They're Gaia's white knights. So A)They're the outcasts who angered the spirit world and were cast out (Seriously: It's *@#$ing Black Spiral Dancer, the Game!) and B)They're weaker, and the original powerful werewolves are their enemies.

Mage
&%(*#7a90870*$&)*&%#. Incoherent rage. ATLANTIS!!!!11! Ahem. Ok, in Mage, there's this idea that reality is consensual, or made up of all the beliefs of all its constituents. A Mage is someone who can take his soul, push against the universe, and make what he believes the new reality.
Or, well, it was. NOW THEY'RE JUST REINCARNATED FROM ATLANTIS AND ALL MAGIC IS FROM ATLANTIS AND OH MY @*($&#%()*&$%(&^

Mage: The Ascension was my favorite RPG.



And all their new stuff is blitheringly stupid.

Next, they're going to release Mummy: You're Not Egyptian Anymore, Or Immortal, and Wraith: You're Not Really Dead, Just Paralyzed From The Forehead Down
summer_moth
Sep. 10th, 2008 04:55 pm (UTC)
Is there anyone out there who actually likes the new versions do you think? Apart from people who've never played the original, I mean...and even those tend to change their minds once they play the proper versions (we've converted several newbies who'd only played Requiem to 'proper' White Wolf!)
count_fenring
Sep. 10th, 2008 06:13 pm (UTC)
The guy who owns my gaming store.... who has a vested interest in liking the system that's still being published.

I understand that they tightened the LARP mechanics a great deal, and that the unified White Wolf system (in the World of Darkness book) is actually pretty sound, systems wise. Does anyone care about them in terms of story or environment? Not that I've found.

White Wolf has always had this THING about trying to prevent styles of play they see as non-valuable. If you wanted to do anything non-angsty, or with the potential for growth and change in a positive style, you really have to work with a sub-set of the plotline and setting. With the new WOD, they've actually managed to clear out everyone but angst-kittens. And even angst-kittens eventually wonder why none of their powers are worth buying with XP, and want to do something cool (if angsty).
count_fenring
Sep. 10th, 2008 04:25 pm (UTC)
And personally, for Mage, I go with the second edition. Because god-damnit, it's BORING if the Ascension war is already over and decided. And the umbra is cool.
troutqueen
Sep. 10th, 2008 02:40 pm (UTC)
formerly a Shadowrun, Call of Cthulu, and Buffy player. Also some Little FearS. I loved the Buffy and Angel rpg books for just reading. These days I don't game much. No time for a really good campaign. Now my hubby, he is the über geek. He loves reading Battletech spec manuals!!
summer_moth
Sep. 10th, 2008 02:57 pm (UTC)
I'm a gamer but don't really read any roleplay books just for their own merits. Some of the background & mini fiction snippets in the White Wolf sourcebooks are pretty cool, particularly all the mythology in Werewolf: The Apocolypse. I've never read any of the White Wolf spin off novels though.

I have however, bought a roleplay sourcebook just because I loved the books it was based on - Amber
count_fenring
Sep. 10th, 2008 06:22 pm (UTC)
I bought the Hellboy GURPS book for just that reason.
corvidophile
Sep. 10th, 2008 03:13 pm (UTC)
i have a couple of the EQ books and the hubby is into the warhammer books. i'm more into a 'graphic novel based books' kick - aka all the Hellboy books hehe. which may i say, there aren't enough of!
jetsetrabite
Sep. 10th, 2008 03:25 pm (UTC)
I've been considering picking up The Darkness and XIII, but haven't ventured into my local comic shop yet to see what they stock.
corvidophile
Sep. 10th, 2008 03:32 pm (UTC)
oh and the Mass Effect books are really good
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summer_moth
Sep. 10th, 2008 04:52 pm (UTC)
Hang on, who are you in real life?? I know the Edgewalkers guys! And yeah, it looks pretty cool :-)
count_fenring
Sep. 10th, 2008 04:27 pm (UTC)
If you do look at White Wolf stuff, I feel I should mention Subsidiaries. It's the Pentex book for Werewolf, and it goes into HORRIFYING but entertaining detail as to how the evil, demon-ridden corporate empire works. It's 90 percent background and character text, 10% rules, if that.
janenx01
Sep. 10th, 2008 04:38 pm (UTC)
The Richard Knaack Warcraft books... I'm ashamed to say I've read a lot of those. They're not particularly well-written (sorry, Richard), but if you like Warcrat/WoW, they're worth a look.
count_fenring
Sep. 10th, 2008 04:46 pm (UTC)
Also, I read Shadowrun 3rd ed just for the setting. Because the rules are horribly unworkable.

I find it really funny that the magic described in the Shadowrun rules could not accomplish the things magic does in the Shadowrun setting.

Also, White Wolf but not often known as such, Adventure!, Abberant, and Trinity are White Wolf's pulp adventure, superhero, and dystopian future with psychics trilogy.
saemiligr
Sep. 10th, 2008 05:10 pm (UTC)
Normally No
But there is one book I squealed over
and Ive read from Front to Cover
and even read a few Side books
White Wolf's Wraith :D
count_fenring
Sep. 10th, 2008 06:18 pm (UTC)
Wraith is the most ingeniously and brilliantly designed roleplaying system that noone plays.

It actually has more supplements released for it than any other White Wolf system.

saemiligr
Sep. 10th, 2008 06:24 pm (UTC)
AND NO ONE PLAYS IT!
...Sorry XD
Im so in love with this game and Ive gotten to play 1 game
If I ever get more orginized Im going to try and run a game
most likely online
count_fenring
Sep. 10th, 2008 06:26 pm (UTC)
I can see the online aspect working....

Maybe try and get enough players to assign one to each shadow (or each two shadows), and give them a seperate chat session for them to scheme with each other. And, of course, PMs to their wraiths.
saemiligr
Sep. 10th, 2008 06:30 pm (UTC)
*Nods* I had that thought too ...
but like I said this is just a thought at the moment :(
13_stories
Sep. 10th, 2008 06:20 pm (UTC)
I haven't had anybody to play with for years now. I used to play D&D (2nd Edition rules) but I still like reading through my old Creature Compendium. Then again, I really like reading books about folklore and fairy tales outside of the gaming world as well.
bkwormdeb
Sep. 10th, 2008 07:09 pm (UTC)
The Buffy RPG is awesome, for reading or playing. It has all the best quotes, and stories from the show.
m00n0rchid
Sep. 10th, 2008 11:18 pm (UTC)
Roleplaying Games
I've never read any of the novels, but my husband has. We actually love the old systems, and I, personally, think that Requiem was designed by beaurocrats with corn stalks shoved up their rears. I picked it up, asked him 'Explain a little.." and put it down before he'd gotten into the combat system, and never picked it up again. He tried to get me to game a little on mIRC using that system when the old game we played died. I can't get over the 'glory days' of the old system, though, so I haven't played in awhile.

More recently, a friend of ours bought him Scion Hero for his birthday and we're looking into it. As far as that goes, I love it, but I'm a mythology nerd anyway.

Played some D&D when I was younger and enjoyed that as well.

Ah, nostalgia.
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